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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Mark,<br>
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      &nbsp; You could try doing a "gdalinfo -stats" to get the min/max pixel
      values, then do a "gdal_translate -scale" to stretch the min/max
      values to 0 255 (the full range of an 8-bit band).<br>
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      &nbsp; You may be able to do the same thing in mapserver by referencing
      a GDAL vrt file with a LUT entry to do the exact same thing as the
      above gdal_translate command, but it would be [almost] pointless
      (and there would be a performance hit).<br>
      <br>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Best Regards,
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      On 7/11/2013 8:07 AM, Mark Volz wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I
            partially figured it out, but I still could use some help.&nbsp;
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">The
            problem that I had was not with the created image itself,
            but how ESRI displayed it.&nbsp; By default ArcMap uses no
            stretch to display the SID image while it uses a percent
            clip stretch for the created tif .&nbsp; After I changed the
            stretch from percent clip to none the images appeared almost
            the same, but there was still some differences.&nbsp; Next, I
            changed the stretch to minimum-maximum on the created tif
            image and&nbsp; I could not tell any difference between the sid
            file and the tif image.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Questions:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">When
            creating a tiff file in gdal_translate, can I adjust
            settings so that the new image will appear exactly like the
            old image without having to turn stretch to minimum-maximum?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Is
            there a way in mapserver to change the stretch from none to
            minimum maximum (or other types of stretches if desired) and
            if so is there a performance hit?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Is
            there a way to modify a tiff file so that any GIS program
            including ArcGIS that opens up the file will use the correct
            stretch type, or is there a setting within ArcGIS that will
            always use a certain type of stretch when it opens up tiff
            images?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Mark
            Volz, GISP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">GIS
            Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  Richard Greenwood [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:richard.greenwood@gmail.com">mailto:richard.greenwood@gmail.com</a>]
                  <br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 10, 2013 6:32 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Mark Volz<br>
                  <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:fwtools@lists.maptools.org">fwtools@lists.maptools.org</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [FWTools] gdal translate - air
                  photo seems washed out after converting image<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:08 PM,
                  Mark Volz &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:MarkVolz@co.lyon.mn.us" target="_blank">MarkVolz@co.lyon.mn.us</a>&gt;
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<br>
                  <br>
                  I converted a mr sid air photo to a tif file. &nbsp;The
                  colors appear washed out and too bright compared to
                  the mr sid file.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  I would like to create an image file that has the
                  following three characteristics:<br>
                  <br>
                  1) Fast for Mapserver to read.<br>
                  2) Relatively the same size as the MrSID file. &nbsp;- I
                  would prefer a file size that is no larger than twice
                  the size of the Mr SID file, even if it means that I
                  have to take a small hit by using compression<br>
                  3) retains the same image quality as the original
                  MrSID file<br>
                  <br>
                  The following two commands made the image fast for
                  mapserver, and relatively small. &nbsp;But the colors were
                  washed out...<br>
                  <br>
                  c:\ms4w\apps\PipestoneMaps\Raster\Picto2013&gt;gdal_translate
                  -CO TILED=YES -CO PHOTOMETRIC=YCBCR -CO TFW=YES -CO
                  COMPRESS=JPEG -CO BIGTIFF=YES MNPIPE13-SID-9INCH.sid
                  New.tif<br>
                  c:\ms4w\apps\PipestoneMaps\Raster\Picto2013&gt;gdaladdo
                  -r average --config compress_overview JPEG --config
                  photometric_overview YCBCR New.tif 2 4 8 16 32 64 128
                  256<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  What can I do to improve the image quality, while
                  retaining the speed and a moderate file size?<br>
                  <br>
                  Thanks<br>
                  <br>
                  Mark Volz, GISP<br>
                  GIS Specialist<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Mark,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Those are pretty much the
                    commands that I regularly use to prepare imagery for
                    mapserver. I have never experienced any noticeable
                    color distortion. What does it look like with a
                    straight
                    <br>
                    &nbsp;&nbsp; gdal_translate MNPIPE13-SID-9INCH.sid New.tif<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">obviously that's not what you
                    want for a final product, but it would be my first
                    step toward 'debugging' the problem.<br>
                    <br>
                    Rich<o:p></o:p></p>
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                -- <br>
                Richard Greenwood<br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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