[mapserver-users] Question about the License.

Martin, Daniel DMartin@erac.com
Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:39:20 -0500


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I've read over the license,  <http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/license.html>
http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/license.html, and I have a question.  I can
understand the most complex computer terminology, yet the simplest legal
document leaves my dumbfounded.  Does the license require open-sourcing
derivative works?  It doesn't appear to, to me.  But it does say:  
 
______
"Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"),
to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: 
 
The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
all copies of this Software or works derived from this Software. "
_____
 
It doesn't seem to make sense to include the statement "use, copy, modify,
merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software",
with a closed source product.  Furthermore, research on MapServer has turned
up more than one commercial product that seem to be entirely based on
MapServer.
 
Let me state up front that I have no intention on releasing derivative works
of MapServer, nor do I think my company ever would.  In my free time, I
contribute to open-source products myself, and I don't need to be sold on
the benefits and nobility of open-source.  I am totally in love with the
great product the contributors to MapServer have produced, and feel a
definite debt to them.  
 
However, when I talk to my management, our legal standing with products we
produce is one of the first things they ask (and have asked about
MapServer).  Even though we never sell software, and most likely never
will...they ask the question.
 
Thanks,
Dan Martin

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<DIV><SPAN class=130280715-17062002><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've read over the 
license, </FONT><A href="http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/license.html"><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/license.html</FONT></A><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>, and I have a question.&nbsp; I can understand the most 
complex computer terminology, yet the simplest legal document leaves my 
dumbfounded.&nbsp; Does the license require open-sourcing derivative 
works?&nbsp; It doesn't appear to, to me</FONT></SPAN><SPAN 
class=130280715-17062002><SPAN class=130280715-17062002><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>.&nbsp; But it&nbsp;does say:&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=130280715-17062002><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=130280715-17062002><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>______</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN 
class=130280715-17062002>"</SPAN>Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, 
to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation 
files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including 
without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, 
sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom 
the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: 
</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>The above copyright notice and this 
permission notice shall be included in all copies of this Software or works 
derived from this Software.&nbsp;<SPAN 
class=130280715-17062002>"</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN 
class=130280715-17062002></SPAN></FONT></FONT><SPAN 
class=130280715-17062002><FONT face=Arial size=2>_____</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=130280715-17062002><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=130280715-17062002><FONT face=Arial size=2>It&nbsp;doesn't seem 
to&nbsp;make sense to&nbsp;include&nbsp;the statement&nbsp;"use, copy, modify, 
merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software", 
with a closed source product.&nbsp; Furthermore, research on MapServer has 
turned up more than one commercial product that seem to be&nbsp;entirely based 
on MapServer.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=130280715-17062002><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=130280715-17062002></SPAN><SPAN class=130280715-17062002><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>Let me state up front that I have no intention on releasing 
derivative works of MapServer, nor do I think my company ever would.&nbsp; In my 
free time, I&nbsp;contribute to&nbsp;open-source products&nbsp;myself, and 
I&nbsp;don't need to be sold on the benefits and nobility of open-source.&nbsp; 
I am totally in love with the great product the contributors to MapServer have 
produced, and feel a definite debt to them.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=130280715-17062002><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=130280715-17062002><FONT face=Arial size=2>However, when I talk 
to my&nbsp;management, our legal standing with products we produce is one of the 
first things they ask (and have asked about MapServer).&nbsp; Even 
though&nbsp;we never sell software, and most likely never will...they ask the 
question.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=130280715-17062002><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=130280715-17062002><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>Thanks,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=130280715-17062002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dan 
Martin</FONT></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></SPAN></BODY></HTML>

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