[Proj] MGRS/USNG support?

George Percivall gpercivall at opengeospatial.org
Sun May 7 16:13:47 EDT 2006


Clifford

I was going to urge your that your comments be sent to FGDC.
But perhaps that already happened some time ago.

George


On May 7, 2006, at 2:02 PM, Clifford J Mugnier wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Such as it may be for the United States, a minor glitch won't  
> necessarily
> mean the difference between life and death.  Once this gets extended
> world-wide the permanent damage is done if the slightest error is  
> included
> in the code.
>
> Who wants the responsibility for the loss of life of an American  
> Soldier
> sometime in the future for a "little ole goof in software?"  The  
> USNG has a
> theoretical justification in that it "will be used in the future  
> for rescue
> operations."  Maybe so, maybe no.  It certainly was NOT used for  
> Katrina
> because there's a UTM Zone change in the middle of the city of New  
> Orleans.
>
> Mice and men folks; the USNG is a dog and civilian implementation  
> of the
> MGRS will eventually get some young men killed.  Within the U.S.,  
> some may
> remember the Twenty-nine Palms incident - that was only an entire  
> U.S. town
> that almost got bombed with live ordinance ... thank goodness for a  
> break
> in the clouds and not the MGRS!
>
> I think it's a stupid idea (USNG), and I have said so publically  
> for over a
> decade since its original publication.  But what do I know about  
> the use of
> coordinate systems, anyway?
>
> Clifford J. Mugnier, C.P., C.M.S.
> National Director (2006-2008),
> Photogrammetric Applications Division
> American Society for Photogrammetry and Remote Sensing
> and
> Chief of Geodesy,
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>
> USNG is an FGDC standard:
> http://www.fgdc.gov/standards/projects/FGDC-standards-projects/usng/
> fgdc_std_011_2001_usng.pdf
>
>
>
> On May 4, 2006, at 5:06 PM, Duncan Agnew wrote:
>
>> To answer Gerald's question, USNG is MGRS inside the US (near as I
>> can make out): they look the same but go by different names because
>> different agencies promulgate them. Online and downloadable
>> computation is available at http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/TOOLS/usng.html
>>
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