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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Even,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&gt; Kristian, do you think that would be feasible to keep the proj_api API, while possibly making it internally use the new API if that simplifies
 design / maintainance ? A kind of compatibility layer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">On top of my head, yes. It might be a challenge to sort out contexts and the ProjFileAPI, but I think it is doable. I&#8217;ll have to have a closer
 look though. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">I could potentially collect the API calls of projects I'm familiar with (GDAL, shapelib, libgeotiff, mapserver and QGIS), so we have a better picture of what is actually used
 in the wild. At the very least, it will give us an idea of what the capabilities the new API should cover...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">That would be very helpful. I am especially interested to see if anyone has ever used the ProjFileAPI functions&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Howard,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US">Ditching manually-constructed and out-of-date nmake for cmake seems fine to me (ooh, CMake gives me project files now!), but ditching autotools that has worked for people for decades does not. That change would ripple into packagers
 and the distros for little or no appreciable benefit.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I won&#8217;t claim to be an expert &nbsp;in CMake, quite the opposite really, but I was under the impression that it &nbsp;would be possible to set up CMake in
 a way so that it mimics the autotools behavior exactly when UNIX makefiles are generated. I am completely wrong here?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">The benefit would be to limit the amount of code we have to maintain. It would only benefit us, true, but it would also free time that can be spend
 improving the overall project instead of maintaining status quo. I don&#8217;t feel too strongly about this, I just wanted to throw it out there while I was at it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US">but I must say I'm very skeptical that we can actually *remove* anything -- especially headers with ambiguous public vs. private behavior that people now depend upon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I get that. On the other hand I fear that we will be locked in place forever if we don&#8217;t allow breaking stuff once in a
 while. If at least we can get away with not exposing projects.h I think there will be much more room to play in the future. I hope that Even&#8217;s assessment about it not being used much is true.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US">We need to be delicate about changing things for a library such as Proj.4 only for the sake of being &quot;better&quot;. This is an unfortunate consequence of maintaining a library that everything ultimately uses (and started using 20&#43; years
 ago).&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Perhaps the ambition should be to BE MUCH BETTER than previous versions on PROJ.4. So much better that other projects will benefit hugely from
 using the new API and update their codebase voluntarily. Eventually the problem will solve itself. I already think we are on the right track.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">/Kristian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Fra:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> proj-bounces@lists.maptools.org [mailto:proj-bounces@lists.maptools.org]
<b>På vegne af </b>Even Rou</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ault<br>
<b>Sendt:</b> 22. juni 2017 21:49<br>
<b>Til:</b> proj@lists.maptools.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Sebastiaan Couwenberg<br>
<b>Emne:</b> Re: [Proj] Coming releases of PROJ.4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">On jeudi 22 juin 2017 21:15:27 CEST Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&gt; On 06/22/2017 08:49 PM, Kristian Evers wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&gt; &gt;&gt; I'm also thinking to Linux distributions that will be able to ship only a<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&gt; &gt;&gt; single proj version and will perhaps have packages that still use the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&gt; &gt;&gt; old API while others have already migrated.&gt;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&gt; &gt; Good point.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&gt;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&gt; To be more specific, there will be projects that will never move to the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&gt; new API due to lack of development manpower, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&gt;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&gt; Ideally the old API remains available, and gets put into an indefinite<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&gt; maintenance mode.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">On my ubuntu 16.04, I see<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">gpx2shp<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">I didn't think the list was so long. Indeed the cumulative amount of effort for migrating all those projects is very
 likely much higher than supporting the old API.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">As far as I'm concerned, I'm afraid I'm somehow the fallback maintainer of libgeotiff and shapelib, but I've never
 touched at their proj.4 dependant part (I'm in fact almost discovering that they depend on proj.4 !) I wouldn't be so enthousiastic in spending time touching that part.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Kristian, do you think that would be feasible to keep the proj_api API, while possibly making it internally use the
 new API if that simplifies design / maintainance ? A kind of compatibility layer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Sans Serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">I could potentially collect the API calls of projects I'm familiar with (GDAL, shapelib, libgeotiff, mapserver and
 QGIS), so we have a better picture of what is actually used in the wild. At the very least, it will give us an idea of what the capabilities the new API should cover...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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