<div dir="ltr">I'm definitely interested. Thank you for the nomination!</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 1:22 AM, Kristian Evers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kreve@sdfe.dk" target="_blank">kreve@sdfe.dk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">> The PSC names I listed were chosen because they have<br>
> been active recently (well, except Frank, who provides institutional<br>
> memory).<br>
<br>
</span>Based on the activity criteria, I think it is only fair to include Kurt Schwehr<br>
In the PSC as well. Over the last 6 to 12 months Kurt has done a<br>
tremendous job on improving the robustness of the PROJ code base<br>
as well taking on the dirty job of improving the overall state of the<br>
code.<br>
So if Kurt is interested, I would like to nominate him as a<br>
member of the bootstrapped PSC.<br>
<br>
/Kristian<br>
<br>
<br>
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> Sendt: 1. juni 2018 00:01<br>
> Til: Frank Warmerdam <<a href="mailto:warmerdam@pobox.com">warmerdam@pobox.com</a>>; PROJ.4 and general<br>
> Projections Discussions <<a href="mailto:proj@lists.maptools.org">proj@lists.maptools.org</a>><br>
> Emne: Re: [Proj] PROJ PSC<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> <br>
> Greg,<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> PROJ has never operated under the aegis of anything really. The MetaCRS<br>
> attempt tried to rally SRS-related software projects under an umbrella<br>
> within OSGeo, but as I've mentioned on the MetaCRS list [1], it is a<br>
> failure as an organizing principle for the software projects. We are<br>
> ostensibly required to vote within MetaCRS to agree on a release, but it<br>
> is unfortunate make-work that doesn't really protect the release, and it<br>
> is a motion put forward to an uninterested voting base. I think it is<br>
> time to dissolve MetaCRS as an authority at least as it pertains to<br>
> releases and software project management. It's still a great mailing<br>
> list with access to real expertise on coordinate systems (that overlaps<br>
> with this mailing list, but not entirely).<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> PROJ needs some kind of body for release organization and technical<br>
> dispute resolution (we've never had one). A PSC will be a better<br>
> governance situation than exists now for PROJ. The PSC approach,<br>
> pioneered by Frank in the MapServer and GDAL communities, would work<br>
> very well for PROJ. The PSC names I listed were chosen because they have<br>
> been active recently (well, except Frank, who provides institutional<br>
> memory).<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> After Frank moved on, I stepped forward as the PROJ maintainer, but I<br>
> know very little about coordinate systems. I just tried to keep the<br>
> lights on and sweep the (documentation) floor. Thankfully, Kristian,<br>
> Charles, Kurt, and Thomas have stepped forward to takeover and provide<br>
> technical and academic heft to really improve things. Their PROJ efforts<br>
> are the basis of the GDAL SRS Barn Raising effort <a href="https://gdalbarn.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gdalbarn.com</a>,<br>
> and without their contributions, there wouldn't be any traffic about<br>
> code styles, testing frameworks, or object hierarchies. PROJ has seen<br>
> more activity in the past year than it had in the previous fifteen. Its<br>
> renewal has been fantastic to watch.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Howard<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> [1] <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/metacrs/2017-August/000956.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/<wbr>pipermail/metacrs/2017-August/<wbr>000956.html</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On 5/31/18 4:26 PM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:<br>
> > Howard,<br>
> ><br>
> > I can imagine a few ways forward:<br>
> ><br>
> > - We could just add the named contributors to the MetaCRS PSC and it<br>
> might<br>
> > be that only those interested in PROJ.4 vote on PROJ.4 proposals.<br>
> > - We could form a PROJ PSC and have the MetaCRS PSC authorize it to<br>
> make<br>
> > decisions about PROJ.4 on a slightly less officious basis than normal PSC<br>
> > rules.<br>
> > - We might want to consider the MetaCRS "experiment" to have run it's<br>
> > course and not worked out particularly well and dissolve MetaCRS other<br>
> than<br>
> > perhaps as a potentially mailing list for coordination of related projects,<br>
> > and proceed with PROJ.4 as an independent project with it's own PSC, etc.<br>
> ><br>
> > I'd be happy enough with the third approach. MetaCRS was mostly my<br>
> > brainchild and I'm willing to agree it is not really a functioning thing.<br>
> ><br>
> > Best regards,<br>
> > Frank<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Greg Troxel <<a href="mailto:gdt@lexort.com">gdt@lexort.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> Howard Butler <<a href="mailto:howard@hobu.co">howard@hobu.co</a>> writes:<br>
> >><br>
> >>> In the interest of self determination, I propose that PROJ form a PSC<br>
> >>> with the following membership:<br>
> >> No objection to the concept, but this raises the issue of whether the<br>
> >> project is operating under the aegis of charitable nonprofit<br>
> >> corporation. I admit to having no clue about that before, and I'm not<br>
> >> saying it's a big deal, but clarity is good.<br>
> >><br>
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