[mapserver-users] beginner getting started
Thomas P. Colson
tpcolson@nexussoft.com
Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:19:03 -0500
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Daniel,I think this calls for a detailed user survey. There are several =
cookie cutter survey cgi-forms out there. I'd be interested to see what =
the major install base is.=20
=20
BTW,mapserver ROCKS on RH, at least in my env.=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin, Daniel [mailto:DMartin@erac.com]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:09 PM
To: 'Yu-Hsin Chen'; Thomas P. Colson; Seth Rodriguez; =
mapserver-users@lists.gis.umn.edu
Subject: RE: [mapserver-users] beginner getting started
As someone who uses MapServer on Windows with no Windows specific =
problems, I would like to hear from you guys some reasons behind your =
statements. I'd like to know what it is I'm missing out on. If there =
is some specific advantage other than your passion for the platform, I'd =
like to know about it. I've never heard of any myself, so if there is =
it would help me to know about it.
=20
Passion is certainly admirable. But if passion is the only reason, I'm =
honestly a little bewildered to see new users steered towards a platform =
without specific reasons. =20
=20
Windows users might be turned off from MapServer by believing it doesn't =
work well under "Winders", when in fact it runs very well. I'd hate to =
see that happen, because MapServer is great!
=20
-Dan Martin
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Yu-Hsin Chen [mailto:ychen@yorktel.com]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:30 AM
To: Thomas P. Colson; Seth Rodriguez; mapserver-users@lists.gis.umn.edu
Subject: RE: [mapserver-users] beginner getting started
Although I've read in this list that MapServer runs on Windows, in the =
long run, I'd have to agree with Tom that you should try a Linux =
platform ( or UNIX if you have access to one ).
=20
>From your description I take you might not have experienced Linux/UNIX =
yet. It does cost 'a little' more to set up a UNIX than a Linux system. =
If you have a spare computer you can either download or buy ( =
inexpensively ) installation CD for Linux. Red Hat is a popular =
commercialized brand. I personally run Mandrake 8.0 with MapServer =
running either using shape files or directly retrieve data from Oracle. =
It is not 'that' difficult to set it up.
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas P. Colson [mailto:tpcolson@nexussoft.com]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:16 AM
To: Seth Rodriguez; mapserver-users@lists.gis.umn.edu
Subject: RE: [mapserver-users] beginner getting started
What are your Linux Skills? It works much better "out of the box" on Red =
Hat. I'd stay away from "Winders".=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Seth Rodriguez [mailto:srodriguez@maguiregroup.com]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:40 AM
To: mapserver-users@lists.gis.umn.edu
Subject: [mapserver-users] beginner getting started
I have been asked by the boss to develop some new marketable GIS skills. =
Our company does a lot of work in the transportation industry. One task =
in our transportation work is to do public involvement. So I have =
suggested developing project websites with web-based project mapping =
using MapServer, which I was introduced to at an ArcView training. To =
assess the usability of the software, I wanted to implement a test to =
show the boss. Unfortunately, my programming experience is limited to a =
bit of avenue, AML, VB, and html, none of which I would say I am fluent =
in. Fortunately, the description of the software notes that programming =
is not required for basic use.=20
=20
I apologize for my novice questions, but I am having some problems off =
the bat. I have downloaded the newest version (3.6.3) and the demo, but =
have not found any executables in the zips. I am assuming that this is =
due to a corrupted download. I also noticed that the software is known =
to run on 95, 98, and NT. I am running XP on my machine. Will this be a =
problem? I can move to another machine if needed.
=20
I hope that I am not biting off too much with this task. Luckily for me, =
I am a quick learner. Would anyone out there please consider taking a =
young, ambitious consultant under their wing to help him impress his =
boss? I will be forever grateful.=20
=20
Thanks for your time.
=20
Seth Rodriguez
Environmental Scientist
GIS Analyst
Maguire Group Inc.
564 Forbes Avenue, Suite 1212
Pittsburgh, PA 15219
(412) 281-6393
(412) 281-7908 FAX
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size=3D2><SPAN class=3D586380917-11112002>Daniel,I think this calls for =
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class=3D586380917-11112002>BTW,mapserver ROCKS on RH, at least in my =
env.=20
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face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Martin, Daniel=20
[mailto:DMartin@erac.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 11, 2002 =
12:09=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Yu-Hsin Chen'; Thomas P. Colson; Seth Rodriguez;=20
mapserver-users@lists.gis.umn.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[mapserver-users]=20
beginner getting started<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D824535516-11112002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial size=3D2>As=20
someone who uses MapServer on Windows with no Windows specific =
problems, I=20
would like to hear from you guys some reasons behind your =
statements. =20
I'd like to know what it is I'm missing out on. =
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D824535516-11112002><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial =
size=3D2>If there is=20
some specific advantage other than your passion for the platform, I'd =
like to=20
know about it. I've never heard of any myself, so if =
there is=20
it would help me to know about it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D824535516-11112002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D824535516-11112002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN class=3D824535516-11112002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Passion is certainly admirable. But =
i</FONT></SPAN>f passion=20
is the only reason, I'm honestly a little bewildered to see new users=20
steered towards a platform without specific=20
reasons. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D824535516-11112002></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D824535516-11112002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Windows users might be turned off from MapServer by =
believing it=20
doesn't work well under "Winders", when in fact it runs very =
well. I'd=20
hate to see that happen, because MapServer is =
great!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D824535516-11112002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D824535516-11112002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial size=3D2>-Dan=20
Martin</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D824535516-11112002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Yu-Hsin Chen=20
[mailto:ychen@yorktel.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 11, 2002 =
9:30=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Thomas P. Colson; Seth Rodriguez;=20
mapserver-users@lists.gis.umn.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[mapserver-users]=20
beginner getting started<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D858440515-11112002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Although I've read in this list that MapServer runs on =
Windows, in=20
the long run, I'd have to agree with Tom that you should try a Linux =
platform ( or UNIX if you have access to one ).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D858440515-11112002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D858440515-11112002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>From your description I take you might not have experienced =
Linux/UNIX yet. It does cost 'a little' more to set up a UNIX =
than a=20
Linux system. If you have a spare computer you can either =
download or=20
buy ( inexpensively ) installation CD for Linux. Red Hat is a =
popular=20
commercialized brand. I personally run Mandrake 8.0 with =
MapServer=20
running either using shape files or directly retrieve data from=20
Oracle. It is not 'that' difficult to set it=20
up.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D858440515-11112002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D858440515-11112002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
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<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Thomas P. =
Colson=20
[mailto:tpcolson@nexussoft.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November =
11, 2002=20
9:16 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Seth Rodriguez;=20
mapserver-users@lists.gis.umn.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[mapserver-users]=20
beginner getting started<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D233421314-11112002>What are your Linux Skills? It works =
much better=20
"out of the box" on Red Hat. I'd stay away from "Winders".=20
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Seth =
Rodriguez=20
[mailto:srodriguez@maguiregroup.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, =
November=20
11, 2002 8:40 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
mapserver-users@lists.gis.umn.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
[mapserver-users]=20
beginner getting started<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV class=3DSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I have been asked =
by the=20
boss to develop some new marketable GIS skills. Our company does =
a lot=20
of work in the transportation industry. One task in our =
transportation=20
work is to do public involvement. So I have suggested developing =
project=20
websites with web-based project mapping using MapServer, which I =
was=20
introduced to at an ArcView training. To assess the usability of =
the=20
software, I wanted to implement a test to show the boss. =
Unfortunately,=20
my programming experience is limited to a bit of avenue, AML, =
VB, and=20
html, none of which I would say I am fluent in. Fortunately, the =
description of the software notes that programming is not =
required for=20
basic use. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I apologize for my =
novice=20
questions, but I am having some problems off the bat. I have =
downloaded=20
the newest version (3.6.3) and the demo, but have not found any=20
executables in the zips. I am assuming that this is due to a =
corrupted=20
download. I also noticed that the software is known to run on =
95, 98,=20
and NT. I am running XP on my machine. Will this be a problem? I =
can=20
move to another machine if needed.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I hope that I am =
not biting=20
off too much with this task. Luckily for me, I am a quick =
learner. Would=20
anyone out there please consider taking a young, ambitious =
consultant=20
under their wing to help him impress his boss? I will be forever =
grateful. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thanks for your=20
time.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Seth=20
Rodriguez</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">Environmental=20
Scientist</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">GIS=20
Analyst</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Maguire =
Group=20
Inc.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">564 Forbes =
Avenue,=20
Suite 1212</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">Pittsburgh</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">,=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">PA</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> =
</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">15219</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(412)=20
281-6393</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(412) =
281-7908=20
FAX</SPAN></FONT></P>
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