[mapserver-users] beginner getting started
Martin, Daniel
DMartin@erac.com
Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:08:56 -0600
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As someone who uses MapServer on Windows with no Windows specific problems,
I would like to hear from you guys some reasons behind your statements. I'd
like to know what it is I'm missing out on. If there is some specific
advantage other than your passion for the platform, I'd like to know about
it. I've never heard of any myself, so if there is it would help me to know
about it.
Passion is certainly admirable. But if passion is the only reason, I'm
honestly a little bewildered to see new users steered towards a platform
without specific reasons.
Windows users might be turned off from MapServer by believing it doesn't
work well under "Winders", when in fact it runs very well. I'd hate to see
that happen, because MapServer is great!
-Dan Martin
-----Original Message-----
From: Yu-Hsin Chen [mailto:ychen@yorktel.com]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:30 AM
To: Thomas P. Colson; Seth Rodriguez; mapserver-users@lists.gis.umn.edu
Subject: RE: [mapserver-users] beginner getting started
Although I've read in this list that MapServer runs on Windows, in the long
run, I'd have to agree with Tom that you should try a Linux platform ( or
UNIX if you have access to one ).
>From your description I take you might not have experienced Linux/UNIX yet.
It does cost 'a little' more to set up a UNIX than a Linux system. If you
have a spare computer you can either download or buy ( inexpensively )
installation CD for Linux. Red Hat is a popular commercialized brand. I
personally run Mandrake 8.0 with MapServer running either using shape files
or directly retrieve data from Oracle. It is not 'that' difficult to set it
up.
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas P. Colson [mailto:tpcolson@nexussoft.com]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:16 AM
To: Seth Rodriguez; mapserver-users@lists.gis.umn.edu
Subject: RE: [mapserver-users] beginner getting started
What are your Linux Skills? It works much better "out of the box" on Red
Hat. I'd stay away from "Winders".
-----Original Message-----
From: Seth Rodriguez [mailto:srodriguez@maguiregroup.com]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:40 AM
To: mapserver-users@lists.gis.umn.edu
Subject: [mapserver-users] beginner getting started
I have been asked by the boss to develop some new marketable GIS skills. Our
company does a lot of work in the transportation industry. One task in our
transportation work is to do public involvement. So I have suggested
developing project websites with web-based project mapping using MapServer,
which I was introduced to at an ArcView training. To assess the usability of
the software, I wanted to implement a test to show the boss. Unfortunately,
my programming experience is limited to a bit of avenue, AML, VB, and html,
none of which I would say I am fluent in. Fortunately, the description of
the software notes that programming is not required for basic use.
I apologize for my novice questions, but I am having some problems off the
bat. I have downloaded the newest version (3.6.3) and the demo, but have not
found any executables in the zips. I am assuming that this is due to a
corrupted download. I also noticed that the software is known to run on 95,
98, and NT. I am running XP on my machine. Will this be a problem? I can
move to another machine if needed.
I hope that I am not biting off too much with this task. Luckily for me, I
am a quick learner. Would anyone out there please consider taking a young,
ambitious consultant under their wing to help him impress his boss? I will
be forever grateful.
Thanks for your time.
Seth Rodriguez
Environmental Scientist
GIS Analyst
Maguire Group Inc.
564 Forbes Avenue, Suite 1212
Pittsburgh, PA 15219
(412) 281-6393
(412) 281-7908 FAX
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<DIV><SPAN class=824535516-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>As
someone who uses MapServer on Windows with no Windows specific problems, I would
like to hear from you guys some reasons behind your statements. I'd like
to know what it is I'm missing out on. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=824535516-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If there is some
specific advantage other than your passion for the platform, I'd like to know
about it. I've never heard of any myself, so if there is it
would help me to know about it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=824535516-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=824535516-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=824535516-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Passion is
certainly admirable. But i</FONT></SPAN>f passion is the only reason,
I'm honestly a little bewildered to see new users steered towards a
platform without specific reasons. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=824535516-11112002></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=824535516-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Windows users might be turned off from MapServer by believing it
doesn't work well under "Winders", when in fact it runs very well. I'd
hate to see that happen, because MapServer is great!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=824535516-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=824535516-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>-Dan
Martin</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=824535516-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Yu-Hsin Chen
[mailto:ychen@yorktel.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 11, 2002 9:30
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Thomas P. Colson; Seth Rodriguez;
mapserver-users@lists.gis.umn.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [mapserver-users]
beginner getting started<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=858440515-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Although I've read in this list that MapServer runs on Windows, in the
long run, I'd have to agree with Tom that you should try a Linux platform ( or
UNIX if you have access to one ).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=858440515-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=858440515-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>From
your description I take you might not have experienced Linux/UNIX yet.
It does cost 'a little' more to set up a UNIX than a Linux system. If
you have a spare computer you can either download or buy ( inexpensively )
installation CD for Linux. Red Hat is a popular commercialized
brand. I personally run Mandrake 8.0 with MapServer running either using
shape files or directly retrieve data from Oracle. It is not 'that'
difficult to set it up.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=858440515-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=858440515-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Thomas P. Colson
[mailto:tpcolson@nexussoft.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 11, 2002
9:16 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Seth Rodriguez;
mapserver-users@lists.gis.umn.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [mapserver-users]
beginner getting started<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=233421314-11112002>What are your Linux Skills? It works much better
"out of the box" on Red Hat. I'd stay away from "Winders".
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Seth Rodriguez
[mailto:srodriguez@maguiregroup.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 11,
2002 8:40 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
mapserver-users@lists.gis.umn.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> [mapserver-users]
beginner getting started<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have been asked by the boss
to develop some new marketable GIS skills. Our company does a lot of work
in the transportation industry. One task in our transportation work is to
do public involvement. So I have suggested developing project websites
with web-based project mapping using MapServer, which I was introduced to
at an ArcView training. To assess the usability of the software, I wanted
to implement a test to show the boss. Unfortunately, my programming
experience is limited to a bit of avenue, AML, VB, and html, none of which
I would say I am fluent in. Fortunately, the description of the software
notes that programming is not required for basic use. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I apologize for my novice
questions, but I am having some problems off the bat. I have downloaded
the newest version (3.6.3) and the demo, but have not found any
executables in the zips. I am assuming that this is due to a corrupted
download. I also noticed that the software is known to run on 95, 98, and
NT. I am running XP on my machine. Will this be a problem? I can move to
another machine if needed.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I hope that I am not biting
off too much with this task. Luckily for me, I am a quick learner. Would
anyone out there please consider taking a young, ambitious consultant
under their wing to help him impress his boss? I will be forever grateful.
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks for your
time.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Seth
Rodriguez</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Environmental
Scientist</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">GIS
Analyst</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Maguire Group
Inc.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">564 Forbes Avenue,
Suite 1212</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Pittsburgh</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">, </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">PA</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">15219</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">(412)
281-6393</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">(412) 281-7908
FAX</SPAN></FONT></P>
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