[ms4w-users] New user to MS4W configuration problem with Itasca/Demo

Fri Jul 7 12:21:27 EDT 2006

Jeff, 

  Thanks for the additional tip. 
  I have tried various combinations that I could think of.     

  When the line is "....cgi-bin/mapserv"  then it displays the standard message
  "The page cannot be displayed...."

  When the line is "...cgi-bin/mapserv.exe" then get a query 
  as to whether to allow mapserv.exe to run? When I answer yRUN 
  then a black cmd window flashes by, but the window displayed by
  internet explorer does not change.  

  So it looks like mapserv.exe is executing, may not recongnize
  that it is being executed as a cgi with a query_string?  

  Normally does a black cmd window flash by when mapserv.exe
  executes?  

  Thank you for your thoughts on this configuration problem.   

  Regards, 
  - John 

Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at dmsolutions.ca> wrote:
  sometimes people are very quiet on this list...it might be worth your 
time to also try the main mapserver mailing list.

the only line of your explanation that startles me is:

"c:/ms4w/apache/cgi-bin/mapserv"

You MUST specify "mapserv.exe" on Windows. And also, like I said 
earlier, NO tweaking of apache or this demo is required if u use MS4W 
and the Itasca-MS4W application (i.e. you don't have to modify that 
above line at all).

jeff

john rust wrote:
> Yes some things in addition to consider... with this problem
> 
> 1) Tomcat is installed (butshutdown)
> 2) SQL Server is installed (but end-process in taskmanager was performed)
> 3) Oracle Express Edition is installed (but end-process in task manager 
> performed)
> 4) Eclispe devlopment env. is installed but not up and running
> 5) Derby embedded JDBC database installed (but no processes to start/stop)
> 
> A service for one of these might be conflicting
> with the cgi call to Mapserv? I did an end-process on sqlserver, oracle
> and shutdown of tomcat. But there are a bunch of svchost.exe process's
> running - which I don't know what they are doing....
> Tasklist does not appear to work on Xp-Home edition.
> When I click on the itasca demo file "index.html" and select Basic 
> Application
> the black cmd window flashes by and no map is displayed. 
> 
> I believe the message in the black cmd window is:
> 
> "This script can only be used to decode form results and
> should be initiated as a CGI process via a httpd server."
> 
> When mapserv is executed on a windows system, isn't it supposed
> to be minimized or in icon form? Or should one normally
> see a black cmd window flash by while it does it's thing?
> 
> If could glean a little more information from Windows/system
> then understand what is going on and why mapserv thinks it
> is not being invoked as a cgi? Any more insights form the Map Server
> group would be greatly appreciated as to why the itasca demo is not
> working on my Windows Xp-Home machine....Much Appreciate. 
> Some of the items mentioned above may be red-herrings.. but for
> lack of any further direction to look for thought would at least mention 
> them.
> 
> Regards,
> John Rust
> 763-424-7973
> 
> 
> */Jeff McKenna /* wrote:
> 
> (please always respond to the mailing list)
> 
> The itasca package for MS4W requires no 'tweaking' of Apache. I'm not
> sure if your Tomcat installation is causing issues.
> 
> Maybe someone else has ideas (?)
> 
> jeff
> 
> 
> john rust wrote:
> > Jeff,
> >
> > Thanks for the reply.
> > Yes - I installed this demo also and get the same results as with
> the
> > workshop-demo.
> > The controls display but no map is displayed.
> >
> > When I correct the "action= " to be the correct path for my system
> > to be "c:/ms4w/apache/cgi-bin/mapserv"
> > Then, I get the black cmd window with the message below...flashes
> by...
> >
> > This script can only be used to decode form results and
> > should be initiated as a CGI process via a httpd server.
> >
> > Isn't the cgi process supposed to be minimized, and *not* display a
> > black window.
> >
> > Hypothesis: For some reason in my config the cgi mapserv process
> thinks
> > its being executed not from an http server? I think there is
> something
> > in my config that is not quite correct... but I tweaked most of the
> > things that I know about with windows and apache etc. It is as
> > if apache is invoking mapserv not as a cgi process but just as an
> > executable or something?
> >
> > Thanks for any pointers in this regards...
> >
> > - John
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > Demo config below...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> > onSubmit="submit_form()">
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > */Jeff McKenna /* wrote:
> >
> > Actually are you aware that there is a pre-configured Itasca demo
> > package available for download specifically for MS4W? Look for
> > "MapServer Itasca Demo Application" on
> > http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/index.phtml?page=downloads.html and use
> > that.
> >
> > jeff
> >
> >
> > john rust wrote:
> > > I installed mS4W on Windows XP Home with the following software
> > installed.
> > >
> > > Eclipse
> > > Tomcat
> > > Apache server
> > > Derby Plug in for Eclipse (java database)
> > > JRE 5.0
> > >
> > > New to the java scripting world, and decided to install the
> > Itasca demo.
> > >
> > > It is installed in C:/ms4w/apache/htdocs/workshop/index.html etc.
> > > This is what I have for index.html in the demo

> > >
> > >
> >
> > > action="c:/ms4w/apache/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe"
> onSubmit="submit_form()">
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > value="c:/ms4w/apps/workshop/itasca.map">
> > >
> > > value="c:/ms4w/apache/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe">
> > >
> > > value="c:/ms4w/apache/htdocs/workshop">
> > >
> > > value="c:/ms4w/apache/htdocs/workshop/temp/ms_temp">
> > >
> > > value="c:/ms4w/apache/htdocs/workshop/temp">
> > >
> > > These are values in the c:/ms4w/apache/conf/httpd.conf file
> > > ServerRoot "c:/ms4w/apache"
> > > Listen 80
> > > ServerAdmin admin at local.domain
> > > DocumentRoot "c:/ms4w/apache/htdocs"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is the value I put into the Itasca.map file:
> > > WMS_ONLINERESOURCE http://localhost/workshop/index.html
> > >
> > > Put cgi-bin onto the WINDOWS PATH statement.
> > > Also moved the workshop files around to various directories.
> > > Made various windows folders shareable on the network.
> > >
> > > When I click on the initialize (basic application) button am
> > queried if
> > > I want to run
> > > C:/ms4w/apache/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe ?
> > > I answer yes a coulpe times, but then **nothing** happens?
> > >
> > > What is wrong with my configuration?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > John Rust
> > > 763-424-7973
> > >
> 
> 

-- 
Jeff McKenna
DM Solutions Group Inc.
http://www.dmsolutions.ca
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