[OSRS-PROJ] Proj.4 vs Geotrans

Ed McNierney ed at topozone.com
Sun Mar 30 14:35:48 EST 2003

Gerald -

I do not think your responses have really been very focused on the
question put by Jesus.  I don't agree that your opinions of software
commenting and coding style are really intended to help answer him, and
help him to make a good decision about what software tools to use.  He
can see the code quite easily and he can develop his own opinions about
whether he finds the coding, commenting, and variable naming conventions
helpful or unhelpful.

Continuing to spout opinions that basically say "that's the way I do it,
and I've been doing it for a long time, and I have to say I really think
it's the right way to do things" adds nothing.  I *might* be interested
in hearing from the people who have picked up your code over the last 44
years and had to work on it, but even that's not relevant to this

If you are interested in helping to answer Jesus' question, it would
great if you could offer comments on the various features and benefits
of PROJ.  You don't seem to be very familiar with GeoTrans - you said so
yourself - so you might simply note that point and leave it to others
who might know it better, rather than "drag[ging] it down", as you put
it, and opining on it.

	- Ed

Ed McNierney
President and Chief Mapmaker
TopoZone.com / Maps a la carte, Inc.
73 Princeton Street, Suite 305
North Chelmsford, MA  01863
Phone: (978) 251-4242  Fax: (978) 251-1396
ed at topozone.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald I. Evenden [mailto:gerald.evenden at verizon.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: [OSRS-PROJ] Proj.4 vs Geotrans

Well as long as we are putting experience on the line I have been
writing code for 44 years and about 38 of those years I have had some
association with cartographic projections.  So that's my belly bump.

Secondly, I wrote an opinion, not a job application.  You certainly
may have your own opinion about how code should be written but until
you make your view of coding public there is nothing to comment on.

I am sure I would have an appropriate response to your threatened
"stern rebuke."

On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 10:41, Ed McNierney wrote:
> Gerald et al. -
> "If you want comments, look up the equations.  You'll see what is
> on then."
> "All the above stuff should be in the manual and there is no point in
> duplicating it in the code."
> I've managed software developers for over 20 years, and anyone making
> those claims to me would get a stern rebuke, and if made in an
> employment interview, would guarantee the speaker to NOT get a job
> offer.
> It appears that the PROJ code is written in a style very much to
> Gerald's liking.  This is hardly surprising.  It would be much more
> helpful if relatively OBJECTIVE observers made comments on the value
> each body of code, particularly as it pertains to how it met their
> needs.
> Turning this into a belly-bumping contest does not help solve anyone's
> problems.
> 	- Ed
> Ed McNierney

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