[OT] Mail and List Reply (was: Re: [Proj] A problem with this list)

Ed McNierney ed at topozone.com
Thu Dec 23 08:01:33 EST 2004

Folks -

I replied privately to Markus, as I agree that most of his comments belong on a "netrants" list <g>.  However, I wanted to clarify that I never had any objection to the way this list operates, but I think it Jerry is perfectly free to dislike it - I don't need to decide whether his preference is "right" or "wrong".

	- Ed

Ed McNierney
President and Chief Mapmaker
TopoZone.com / Maps a la carte, Inc.
73 Princeton Street, Suite 305
North Chelmsford, MA  01863
Phone: +1 978 251-4242   Fax: +1 978 251-1396  

-----Original Message-----
From: proj-bounces at xserve.flids.com [mailto:proj-bounces at xserve.flids.com] On Behalf Of Markus Schaber
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:37 AM
To: proj at xserve.flids.com
Subject: [OT] Mail and List Reply (was: Re: [Proj] A problem with this list)

Hi, Ed,

On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:21:27 -0500
"Ed McNierney" <ed at topozone.com> wrote:

> From: Gerald Evenden <gerald.evenden at verizon.net>
> > I find that if I do a "reply" to this list I only end up only a 
> > reply to the author of the email rather than the list.  Most other 
> > list I do a reply to generate a To address to the list.
> > 
> > To overcome this I have to do a "Reply All" which sends a message to 
> > both the author and the list.  A bit of over-kill.
> The limitation of the "reply is to all" feature is that it's difficult 
> to do the opposite - reply ONLY to the sender, when appropriate.  Most 
> mail programs have a "Reply" and "Reply to All" button, and lists like 
> this one let you select which you want - but you do have to make that 
> selection.
> I believe most of the lists I participate in have received at least 
> one complaint wishing that they worked "the other way"!

It is in fact wrong to munge the Reply-To: Header to point to the list.
The purpose of the Reply-To: Header is to redirect the Authors From:
adress to a different one for Replies.

But there are Headers like X-BeenThere or List-Id that indicate a mailing list and redirect Replies to the list. This list sets both of them correctly, and my Mailer honours it.

My mailer has, as every sane mailer, at three Reply buttons: Reply, Reply to All and Reply to Autor. 

Reply to Author uses the Adresses from Reply-To: if present, and the
From: Header if not. Reply replies to the list whenever list headers are present, and does as Reply-To Author otherwise. Reply to all copies the adresses from Reply-To:, From:, To:, Cc: and maybe others.

So, IMHO this list does the correct thing, and I sadly have to say that Ed and Gerald might have to change their MUA, or fix them to honour the list headers.

As this discussion is very old, and already came to the same conclusion multiple times, I would say it's best to close this topic here.

For a full discussion, see http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/listreplyto.html

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